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andi_h
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 01:22
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hello,
waiting for the cherry? you must be kidding...
i checked it and there's no matter if you collect the fruits or not, there are always 5 fruits for each level, so if you let go the five fruits when there is no cherry you won't get more. of course, you can quit the game and start a new one when you are in level one till you get it but that won't work for each...
anyway, sebi, please give us back the friuts!
i was the one who told you how to get these scores in the past as i didn't think at all we're cheating. it's just another way to play, nothing else. isn't it?
cheers, andi
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 03:13
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That's not true, andi. Not true at all. It has to do with the dots, but if I tell that hint, it wouldn't help anyway. I have to say... it's amazingly difficult to take advantage of even the hint. If I told the hint, it probably wouldn't be fair to the people who score above 1,000,000, you know? 
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 03:18
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Yes, I do see 1,400,000 on the Normal Pac the Man X level as being possible. I, too, can see how this is likely from having made my 1,090,000+. There were two or three times where I flopped and didn't get all four ghosts, and it was all my fault, too. So, yes, if I would have hit the four I messed up on in four different instances and the cherry on level 20, I could have slammed 1,400,000 easily. So, yes, I can believe this score, phily. So, 1,400,000 is pretty much the highest possible score on Normal, you think? Only thing is... there's one thing that I know about the game - and I'm sure phily and amadisdudu knows - that means McSebi doesn't know as much about their own game than they think. There is a way to succeed in an area people think isn't possible. I can't say what it is, but you know what I mean.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 05:54
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I played my butt off, and I am still second?
2 GrandGizmo 1155175 25th Normal Level 2008-03-05
Ya'll that still means I'm good, right?
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 06:16 - Edited by: philywily
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the math with getting all the ghosts with cherries on hard and master (think they prob same for easy and normal):
level 1: 6800x4 = 27200
level 2: 6800x4 = 27200
level 3: 6800x5 = 34000
level 4: 6800x5 = 34000
level 5: 6800x5 = 34000
level 6: 6800x4 = 27200
level 7: 6800x4 = 27200
math so far: 210800, which does not include adding 1000 for actually getting the cherry in each round, and 10000 for getting the big green thing.
level 8: 14800x4 = 59200
level 9: 14800x4 = 59200
level 10: 14800x4 = 59200
math so far: 388400
but in many of these rounds you can make up with the cherry at least about 15000 each. and that is modest estimate. this puts you over half a mill by level 10.
i have only made it past 500000 though about 10% of the time at this level, as you just don;t get the cherry every round. however if you can get the big green thing it's 10000 points a pop.
level 11: 14800x4 = 59200
level 12: 14800x4 = 59200
level 13: 14800x5 = 74000
math so far: totals 580800
level 14: 24000x4 = 96000
level 15: 24000x4 = 96000
level 16: 24000x4 = 96000
level 17: 24000x4 = 96000
level 18: 24000x4 = 96000
level 19: 24000x4 = 96000
math so far: totals 1156800
i can usually break the million mark by here, even without the cherries on every level, when you combine it with getting other fruits.
here is where it really counts (the game i got 2mil was when i got a cherry on last 5 rounds)
level 20: 152000
level 21: 152000
level 22: 152000
level 23: 152000
level 24: 152000
level 25: 152000
total score with cherries and ghosts
2068800
then plus around 2000 for doubling the coins (50000 points), and 20000 for doubling other fruits each level (500000), and including cherry at beginning (25000)
GRAND TOTAL 2643800
I once got a phenomenal 2170000 score on this, getting the cherry on 21 of the levels, including the last couple. once i actually died with cherry on level 23 and the next fruit that popped up was cherry.
so yeah, i think this proves my scores are possible, with right game plan and hell of alot of luck.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 06:35 - Edited by: philywily
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could the mcsebi admin please respond to this, and if they give me their email i will let you know all my hotspts and patterns. I got those scores fairly and i would like them rectified.
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McSebi
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 07:15 - Edited by: McSebi
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Philywily, thanks for posting here. As you may have noticed I removed some of your entries.
However, it seems you can beat your own highscores easily. You didn't even need one day to make a new entry... This is really amazing.
Drop a note by email, use the feedback menu option in the "Game" menu.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 07:27 - Edited by: philywily
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i don't have a .mac account, or if i do i can't remember my account name. Is there anyway you could post a contact email here please?????
actually i did not beat my high score in master, was 30000 off from memory, and it was not that easy to get that. also i did not get anywhere near my hard score, which is what i really want restored at 2170000; that game is never going to happen again.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 08:01
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So, you are admitting that you eat all four ghosts with a cherry every level? Now, I know there is not a cherry on every single level. In fact, sometimes, the cherry never comes. But, of course, I know I have gotten the cherry on a lot of levels. It just depends. Roll of the dice. But, if you wait, you have a greater chance of getting the cherry. But, to wait is very difficult. Most people would die. But, I try to make sure there is no cherry. 
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 08:07
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of course you eat the cherry and all four ghosts, but admittedly the cherry doesn;t always come up.
as i said i got them on 21 of the levels, and as i got almost all the cherries coming up on the last 6 levels, that gave me a score of about 1 million in itself for my 2 million game.
actually if you find the right spot to wait in, this game becomes very easy. particularly so on hard and master level because the ghosts are so linear. i was actually pretty surprised i had highscores at least 500000 above the next player.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 08:57
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But, those sweet spots don't exist on the Normal Level, huh? Because, I'm scoring 2 GrandGizmo 1155175 25 2008-03-05 and I know eventually I'll hit around 1,300,000. But, I am almost hitting all the ghosts. Sometimes, I'm forced to only eat three though. So, this linear grouping you are talking about does not exist in the Normal Level then, huh?
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 10:43 - Edited by: philywily
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um, haven;t played normal level in a long time, but there are a few spots i remember where you can hold up and line up all the ghosts.
for instance, level 3 there are a couple:
bottom-centre left (or right as it is mirror image) you can stay directly under the bar where it connects to other side, and the ghosts will circle above you on top left side. and if you do some maneuvering you can actually make them travel through the connector bar to be stuck on the opposite side.
the easiest one however occurs after you have eaten the blinking light at one of the top entry points (which actually comes up at the bottom of the screen), after you eat the blinking coin and get all the ghosts, go back to that place, and all the ghosts will congregate below you.
so yes is possible to align all ghosts, normal however is just a little harder as not all ghosts conform as linearly as the hard or master levels, (which ironically i find the easiest levels).
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:05
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oh and you need, and i can;t emphasize this enough, you need to hit that last ghost because they are essentially the whole game.
for instance in first few rounds, i think the scoring goes
ghost 1: 200
ghost 2: 400
ghost 3: 800
ghost 4: 2000
and this only escalates as game goes on. if you want the high scores have to get that last ghost every time, particularly on the final levels where it's worth like 10000 (and with cherry 20000). if you can find the hot spot on each level, or at least a pattern, you should be able to master the whole game easily.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:12
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Something strange I noticed. I played it on Hard, and I noticed that you're right. The ghosts move differently. In fact, if someone manipulates the clumping of those ghosts, they can easily do much better. Ironically, it would see that the Normal Level is the Master Level. It's harder to get a higher score - like you say. How in the world did they program it that way? The ghosts on Master and Hard clump differently. Plus, you can get them to follow you more easily. I didn't even try and got over half a million. If I tried, I bet my score would be higher than my 1.1 million I have on Normal level. 
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:13
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Oh by the way, Admin, I made 6th on Hard Level, and it didn't even post. What's going on with version 1.1, Master and Hard Levels? Glad I didn't have a serious score. I only got 6th on the hard so I could see what phily was talking about. The ghosts do move differently. I noticed it, too.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:14
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phily, why don't you try for the World Champion Pac-the-Man X for Apple computing? You no doubt could be it if you really are legit.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:31 - Edited by: philywily
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world champion? i thought that was a joke. is there really one?
oh and imagine getting a serious score grandgizmo, and then getting it repeatedly deleted. that's how annoyed i am now. and then everyone thinks you are a cheat. ah!!!
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amadisdudu
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:40
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Each area has a way to succeed. There's always a corner or a place where the gosts can't eat you and begin to make circles (or movements that does not put in trouble your life). That place is the one where you have to wait until they give you (or not) the cherry. Sometimes is better to die and start again the area...
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 11:51
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couldn't agree more amadisdudu ...
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Fred_CLaret
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 12:32
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I haven't got 4 hours to spare to play so I will have to wait till I have some time off.
I'm begining to believe Philywily now. there is of course a "TRY' function where you can keep on practicising one level again and again so I guess that's one way of figuring out the game.
So if I understand it , to get the max score ;
1.Score over 50,000 in first level.
2.Wait around till the cherry finally appears (which apparently involves more than just waiting.
3.find the hotspots.
4.put life on hold.
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Fred_CLaret
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 12:40
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I agree, Hard is easier than normal.
Funny but true.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 12:58 - Edited by: philywily
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actually it's more like 5 hours, but the fastest i've done it in is 4. i think i spent 6 hours once actually.
1. scoring over 50000 is just a guide. for some reason getting a cherry in level 1 means more likely get them the rest of game, or so i believe. some first round level tries i've only got 40000 and still had good games. once i got 70000 on first round and rest of game sucked (one cherry, four big green things). you should know if a game is worthwhile game if have scored between 400000 and 500000 by level 10.
2. yep.
3. need to find hotspots as soon as level begins really. otherwise you are to involved in avoiding ghosts to set up a pattern.
4. put life on hold, yes. and it helps if you have no life at all. that's how sad i am.
and yes "hard" is easiest level, and once you master how that mode works the "master" level becomes next easiest. "normal" is difficult, and i find that as "easy" level has no pattern to the ghosts at all, it is actually the hardest level.
but this is only going by scoring, for actually playing it if you have never played it before and just trying to finish it, the difficulty levels are appropriate.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:07 - Edited by: philywily
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oh and fred is right, the "try level" function is how i mastered the game. think about it: if you have a great score but don;t know how to play one of the final levels you can drop a 100000 points easy.
yeah it took me absolutely ages to figure out a system for level 21. and that may be, besides the last level, the hardest to align all the ghosts. edit: actually the last level is just time consuming, level 21 is just difficult.
btw fred there are actually a couple of more hints and methods to getting a good score, but i don;t want to divulge my entire game plan. i will say however that if you think about certain things mathematically, your approach might change.
for instance at the beginning of the game, getting all the ghosts with one blinking coin is worth 3400 points. but getting a big green thing is 5000, or a banana is 3000. so if you ultimately have to choose between getting all the ghosts, a fruit, or a combination of both, the answer should become simple.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:14
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Well, I'm satisfied.
I'm 4th in the world on Hard Level tonight (phily is right. It's easier than Normal Level) and 2nd in the world on Normal Level. Oh, I got 2nd on Master, but phily isn't in there, so...
I'm satisfied. Now for Neverwinter Nights 2. I'm retiring from Pac the Man X for awhile. LOL
HARD LEVEL SCORE: 4th GrandGizmo 1004020 25 2008-03-05
NORMAL LEVEL SCORE: 2nd GrandGizmo 1155175 25 2008-03-05
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How's that Fred? Am I pretty good? lol What you think phily? It's not 2,000,000, but hey... out of 500,000 downloads... not too bad.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:17
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Oh, by the way, I didn't hardly even try as hard on the Hard Level, and I easily broke that million. I could have done a lot better, so yeah... Normal Level is definitely more difficult than Hard Level.
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:20
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not bad actually. you would probably beat me on a normal level game now if we had a head to head.
actually your scores are pretty great considering you've only spent today on it. let's hope admin don't delete your scores also ...
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:39 - Edited by: philywily
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HEY ADMIN: could you please restore my scores? they took a long time to get.
i have divulged some of my game plan, revealed some of the hotspots, and shown mathematically my scores are indeed possible.
If you cannot provide me with a corresponding email address (in which i would be more than happy to outlay my game-plan), I think this forum is at least the beginning of the proof you need in order to convince you my scores are legit (as at least some of the members of this forum have begun to consider). So i implore you once more, restore my scores (and indeed everyone else's), or at least delete anyone who actually scores over a million, because apparently they are cheating.
sincerely, philywily.
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GrandGizmo
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:51
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yeah, and I've only been playing for a month. Oh no! I hope they don't delete my score, too! I about killed myself to get that Normal Level conquered!
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amadisdudu
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 13:53
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You are right, philiwily. I agree. It's important to get some good puntuation in the first area, roundin' 40.000 and 50.000.
I think that we have "revealed" the "secrets" to get highpointed in each area and now everybody can get high scores.
There's only a few things that doesn't depends in tactics: patience, quick thinking and some luck.
(For example, if u get all the cherrys in the game excepting the 5 last areas you won't get the record. But if the game gives you cherrys and oranges in the 5 last areas you will get a very high score).
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philywily
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 14:00 - Edited by: philywily
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oranges? funny but i don;t actually like them. they can make you take risks that potentially disrupt your gameplan, and are only worth 4000 with cherry.
for me it;s actually the cherries and big green things worth 10000 (or bananas worth 6000) that i rely on to score big. if you can figure out the hotspots and patterns for each level, i find you don;t even actually need the oranges.
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